I just watched yesterdays stream.
casey mentions that he does not want to introduce to much language complexity because it makes it harder to write compilers for the game.
Actually I am building my own "Hand-made Compiler" right now.
Simple templates like min, max or swap are okay. But if you go gung-ho with templates it gets hard to compile efficiently.
@casey I will write a C+X compiler where the X is whatever you would like (assuming I can implement it.)
Would you guys here want to watch a C compiler being written form scratch ?
casey mentions that he does not want to introduce to much language complexity because it makes it harder to write compilers for the game.
Actually I am building my own "Hand-made Compiler" right now.
Simple templates like min, max or swap are okay. But if you go gung-ho with templates it gets hard to compile efficiently.
@casey I will write a C+X compiler where the X is whatever you would like (assuming I can implement it.)
Would you guys here want to watch a C compiler being written form scratch ?
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Of course without the use of lex or yacc!
Just like HandmadeHero. Everything with explanation and almost no previous knowledge required.
If you like to sneak preview the code it's on github
www.github.com/UplinkCoder/qcc.
Everything but my optimization passes will be open-source.
Just like HandmadeHero. Everything with explanation and almost no previous knowledge required.
If you like to sneak preview the code it's on github
www.github.com/UplinkCoder/qcc.
Everything but my optimization passes will be open-source.
Hi, I would like to see that.
I would absolutely want to see that happen! I would never miss a show!
I already follow the videos of Jonathan Blow. And they are very interesting. (And I missing more frequent updates....:)
I am new to this kind of "infotainment", and I like it. To view Jon Blow or Casey code, is just fucking beautiful.
However, it's not the fact that he (JB) is writing a compiler that interest me the most, but the mindset, and philosophy he has for doing so. Which seem to me very close to the right thing.
I also think that writing a truely NEW compiler, is almost a neglected area, where the opportunities for doing something truely unique and magnificent is rather big. However, I fear that in the marketplace, that's sadly not always enough.
I am new to this kind of "infotainment", and I like it. To view Jon Blow or Casey code, is just fucking beautiful.
However, it's not the fact that he (JB) is writing a compiler that interest me the most, but the mindset, and philosophy he has for doing so. Which seem to me very close to the right thing.
I also think that writing a truely NEW compiler, is almost a neglected area, where the opportunities for doing something truely unique and magnificent is rather big. However, I fear that in the marketplace, that's sadly not always enough.
Kladdehelvete
I already follow the videos of Jonathan Blow. And they are very interesting. (And I missing more frequent updates....:)
I am new to this kind of "infotainment", and I like it. To view Jon Blow or Casey code, is just fucking beautiful.
However, it's not the fact that he (JB) is writing a compiler that interest me the most, but the mindset, and philosophy he has for doing so. Which seem to me very close to the right thing.
I also think that writing a truely NEW compiler, is almost a neglected area, where the opportunities for doing something truely unique and magnificent is rather big. However, I fear that in the marketplace, that's sadly not always enough.
Yes it's great in many many ways. You learn new ways of thinking about code when you hear their train of though while you see the code manifest itself.
JB has inspired me to design a new language domain-specific for realtime audio/DSP-applications. I have struggled with applying C++ to this field for a long time now but either you give up performance or code quality (template hell, macro cesspool or lots of code repetition). I also see lots of potential for new languages, and as long as I benefit from the new language that's reward enough. The marketplace is always a strange ultra conservative place so it's hard to design a language to please the current marketplace fixated on web 2.0 without making a JavaScript-clone with extra bloat on top.
Well, then.
Lets go an make a compiler everybody can understand ;)
I cannot say anything about frequency of uploads yet.
I will be loading up a video to youtube on monday.
Lets go an make a compiler everybody can understand ;)
I cannot say anything about frequency of uploads yet.
I will be loading up a video to youtube on monday.
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UplinkCoder
Well, then.
Lets go an make a compiler a everybody can understand ;)
I cannot say anything about frequency of uploads yet.
I will be loading up a video to youtube on monday.
Are you going to live-stream or post after the fact on YouTube? Dynamic or Static typing :P Either way I am all over this.
A recommended book on the topic:
https://sites.google.com/site/lccretargetablecompiler/
This is *not* a theoretical book (like the "Dragon Book", which you'll see referenced often if you look into the topic). To think of it, it feels a lot like Handmade Hero, except in book form, in that it shows real code and uses that to explain the underlying principles.
The whole source code is available here:
https://github.com/drh/lcc/tree/v3_6
The newest version (which is not described by the book) lives here:
https://github.com/drh/lcc
Good luck with your endeavour!
https://sites.google.com/site/lccretargetablecompiler/
This is *not* a theoretical book (like the "Dragon Book", which you'll see referenced often if you look into the topic). To think of it, it feels a lot like Handmade Hero, except in book form, in that it shows real code and uses that to explain the underlying principles.
The whole source code is available here:
https://github.com/drh/lcc/tree/v3_6
The newest version (which is not described by the book) lives here:
https://github.com/drh/lcc
Good luck with your endeavour!
Oh I would so love to watch that. Right now I am a little behind on Caseys video series so I need to catch up. When I am all caught up I will start watching your videos as well(hopefully) as long as they are not too long. Its so amazing to see people who are willing to take time out of their lives to help inexperienced users. Keep up the good work!
I would love to watch this series unfold. Too bad about the cold in the first videos, these are troubled times :) I have never done any work in D lang so it would be interesting to see that in action too. Very cool stuff.
Thanks for watching!
I'd like to hear a bit of constructive criticism.
Regards, Stefan
I'd like to hear a bit of constructive criticism.
Regards, Stefan
I will rewatch the videos later tonight and produce a more detailed review. One thing that immediately comes to mind is a silly detail such as the language of the IDE. Running VS in English would simplify the ability for someone who is not that well versed in the German language to follow what you are doing. :)